Post by faqir on May 24, 2016 15:54:50 GMT
The following was a pm I received:
I also have question regarding the Ilah issue salafis always bring up when it comes to issue of tauhid against ahlul sunnah (asharis and maturidis) saying that asharis have the defintion of Ilah wrong and the ILah does not mean "create" but "something which is worshipped and they quote from Tabari and Ibn taymiyaah:
I also have question regarding the Ilah issue salafis always bring up when it comes to issue of tauhid against ahlul sunnah (asharis and maturidis) saying that asharis have the defintion of Ilah wrong and the ILah does not mean "create" but "something which is worshipped and they quote from Tabari and Ibn taymiyaah:
" He, i.e. Ibn Jareer Al-Tabari, then went on to say a couple of lines down;
“If it is said; And what proves that uluhiyyah means worship and that an Ilah "إله" is one that is worshipped and that it has an originality in “Fa’al and yaf’al” "فعل, يفعل"(i.e. it being an Arabic verb)” [End quote].
And then he went on to prove it with an Arabic poem said by Ru’bat Ibn Al ‘Ajaaj. And then he brought the interpretation of Ibn Abbas on the verse in Surah Al’Araf, verse 127 where Allah says, “And the chiefs of Pharaoh’s people said: Do you leave Musa and his people to make mischief in the land and to forsake you and your gods? He said: We will slay their sons and spare their women, and surely we are masters over them”, but Ibn Abbas used to read the verse differently by reading وإلاهتك instead of وآلهتك and he’d say upon interpreting the word وإلاهتك which is the way he’d read it, he’d say; “i.e. your worship”.
So the verse will mean according to the interpretation of Ibn Abbas “And the chiefs of Pharaoh’s people said: Do you leave Musa and his people to make mischief in the land and to forsake you and your worship? He said: We will slay their sons and spare their women, and surely we are masters over them”.
So this is a clear indication that the word Ilah means worship since Ibn Abbas interpreted وإلاهتك to mean “And your worship”, and he said (i.e. Ibn Abbas) in support to his interpretation by saying as Ibn Jareer Al-Tabari supplies in his tafseer"
“If it is said; And what proves that uluhiyyah means worship and that an Ilah "إله" is one that is worshipped and that it has an originality in “Fa’al and yaf’al” "فعل, يفعل"(i.e. it being an Arabic verb)” [End quote].
And then he went on to prove it with an Arabic poem said by Ru’bat Ibn Al ‘Ajaaj. And then he brought the interpretation of Ibn Abbas on the verse in Surah Al’Araf, verse 127 where Allah says, “And the chiefs of Pharaoh’s people said: Do you leave Musa and his people to make mischief in the land and to forsake you and your gods? He said: We will slay their sons and spare their women, and surely we are masters over them”, but Ibn Abbas used to read the verse differently by reading وإلاهتك instead of وآلهتك and he’d say upon interpreting the word وإلاهتك which is the way he’d read it, he’d say; “i.e. your worship”.
So the verse will mean according to the interpretation of Ibn Abbas “And the chiefs of Pharaoh’s people said: Do you leave Musa and his people to make mischief in the land and to forsake you and your worship? He said: We will slay their sons and spare their women, and surely we are masters over them”.
So this is a clear indication that the word Ilah means worship since Ibn Abbas interpreted وإلاهتك to mean “And your worship”, and he said (i.e. Ibn Abbas) in support to his interpretation by saying as Ibn Jareer Al-Tabari supplies in his tafseer"