Post by thompsoni on May 7, 2015 2:17:12 GMT
Assalamu alaykum.
I have a question regarding the supposed link between the Deobandis and Wahhaabis.
I myself left the Salafi sect after looking into their teachings in more detail and comparing to the more classical texts. After I came to explore the Deobandi school, but there is something I can't comprehend.
1. I left the Salafi sect because it is essentially Wahhaabi and rely on the teachings of ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab. Now some Deobandi scholars say that this man was actually praised, they use good words for him and don't consider him to have been astray. And I'm now talking about the modern Deobandi scholars, not the founding fathers. So I try my best to understand this but I can't, how is it possible they consider this man to have been a good scholar (even a bit)?
2. It seems to me that there is some sort of a split between the Deobandi scholars on the issue of the Wahhaabis. Some might consider them to be all fine, while others rebuke them harshly. Would this be correct to say?
3. I even read myself a fatwa that praises one of the main Salafi scholar, namely ibn Baz. They seemed to consider him to be also a good scholar. Ibn Baaz was a very staunch supporter of ibn Abd al-Wahhaab and he even encouraged others to spread his books. How do the Deobandis usually see the main Salafi scholars (ibn 'Uthaymeen, ibn Baaz, al-'Albani)? And is there some sort of confusion among the Deobandis about the teachings of these three?
4. I can understand that perhaps the founders of Deobandi school were mistaken about ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab or they didn't know completely what he was up to. However how can it be possible that the modern day scholars wouldn't know about him or his teachings, which are widely available in many languages?
5. Have the main leaders of Deoband condemned the Salafi / Wahhaabi doctrine? Can we say that the majority don't accept them? Do we have written Deobandi fataawaa that clearly say that ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab and his cult were astray? And if there is, are those views widely accepted among the school?
It seems to me there is some mysterious and hidden link between Wahhaabis and Deobandis. Perhaps the more knowledgeable could clarify the issue? Jazakumullaahu khayr.
Links:
1 - islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/17554 (does Mufti Ebrahim Desai represent Deoband at all?)
2 - islamqa.org/hanafi/darulifta-deoband/78826
3 - darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=578
4 - darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=7193
I have a question regarding the supposed link between the Deobandis and Wahhaabis.
I myself left the Salafi sect after looking into their teachings in more detail and comparing to the more classical texts. After I came to explore the Deobandi school, but there is something I can't comprehend.
1. I left the Salafi sect because it is essentially Wahhaabi and rely on the teachings of ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab. Now some Deobandi scholars say that this man was actually praised, they use good words for him and don't consider him to have been astray. And I'm now talking about the modern Deobandi scholars, not the founding fathers. So I try my best to understand this but I can't, how is it possible they consider this man to have been a good scholar (even a bit)?
2. It seems to me that there is some sort of a split between the Deobandi scholars on the issue of the Wahhaabis. Some might consider them to be all fine, while others rebuke them harshly. Would this be correct to say?
3. I even read myself a fatwa that praises one of the main Salafi scholar, namely ibn Baz. They seemed to consider him to be also a good scholar. Ibn Baaz was a very staunch supporter of ibn Abd al-Wahhaab and he even encouraged others to spread his books. How do the Deobandis usually see the main Salafi scholars (ibn 'Uthaymeen, ibn Baaz, al-'Albani)? And is there some sort of confusion among the Deobandis about the teachings of these three?
4. I can understand that perhaps the founders of Deobandi school were mistaken about ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab or they didn't know completely what he was up to. However how can it be possible that the modern day scholars wouldn't know about him or his teachings, which are widely available in many languages?
5. Have the main leaders of Deoband condemned the Salafi / Wahhaabi doctrine? Can we say that the majority don't accept them? Do we have written Deobandi fataawaa that clearly say that ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab and his cult were astray? And if there is, are those views widely accepted among the school?
It seems to me there is some mysterious and hidden link between Wahhaabis and Deobandis. Perhaps the more knowledgeable could clarify the issue? Jazakumullaahu khayr.
Links:
1 - islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/17554 (does Mufti Ebrahim Desai represent Deoband at all?)
2 - islamqa.org/hanafi/darulifta-deoband/78826
3 - darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=578
4 - darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=7193