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Post by muslimanswers on Feb 2, 2015 2:38:13 GMT
Salam Alaykum, In connection with the previous question, it is said that when we elevate the discussion to a topic as important as the "Existence of God", we must acknowledge that one cannot have certainty about anything (especially those things belonging to the extra-mental category) at all - that is, even the building blocks upon which Islam has traditionally constructed its theological arguments are not universally accepted, so how can we Muslims expect wide acceptance of our proofs and evidences. How would we normally answer this objection? Wa Salam
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Post by Realutionist on Feb 5, 2015 23:35:31 GMT
Why can we not have certainty about anything?
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Post by Abu Idris on Nov 24, 2015 13:19:09 GMT
For what reason(s), if any, must we acknowledge lack of absolute certainty? If this is coming from a physics perspective, as Professor Lawrence Krauss did in his debate with Hamza Tzortzis (available on ), then this is strictly speaking from the limited realm of physics, where one can only tell whether something is 'highly likely' or not. However, when looking from the metaphysical perspective (metaphysics literally means 'beyond physics' and is a branch of philosophy), there are adequate principles and concepts which would lead one to absolute certainty in one's conclusions.
As for the foundations upon which the backbone of Islam stands, it is unfair for the objective observer to claim they lack absolute certainty. Take, for instance, the concept of Tawatur: no individual educated in the field of thinking will deny its certainty.
To read further on what evidence is (and is not), see ahlussunnah.boards.net/thread/248/refuting-atheist-sophistry.
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Post by muslimanswers on Nov 28, 2015 9:33:14 GMT
Salam Alaykum,
This was an old thread I started, but yes the issue is there of living in a world where the concept of knowledge and reality itself is deprecated (way before we get into the discussion: 'Knowing the Existence of God'). Concerning scientists like Krauss and PZ Myers, should there not be a standing committee of Muslim scientist-apologists who understands exactly where the science under discussion stands [because at the end of the science can also very well be used for polemical reasons just like religious texts can be, someone who is unfamiliar should hand the matter over to someone who knows the issue well].
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Post by Abu Idris on Nov 30, 2015 12:44:47 GMT
Wa 'alaykum al-Salam.
Agreed. We most definitely need Muslims educated in theology as well as the prevalent sciences of the time (today's being physics and evolutionary biology etc). In his foreword to his younger brother's Islam awr Siyasi Nazariyyat (Urdu), Mufti Muhammad Rafi al-Uthmani has very eloquently and convincingly written about the need for such expertise in all prominent fields by producing groups of specialists in all areas of education and skill. As one can tell from the title, the Shaykh was emphasising the importance of individuals being well-versed in politics, wherefrom he went on to list the historical contributions by Muslim scholars in law and medicine etc. It is definitely worth a read.
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