Post by aidh on Jun 19, 2015 1:51:47 GMT
Question:
Is Musa's ('alayhis salam) conversation with Allah about fasting persons du'a at iftar authentic?
Answer:
Some points on a hadith which is being circulated on Social Media about the benefits of du'a at the time of iftar:
This is the original text in Arabic floating around (two versions):
هل أكرمت أحدا مثل ما أكرمتني، حيث أسمعتني كلامك؟ قال الله تعالى: يا موسى إن لي عبادا أخرجهم في آخر الزمان، فأكرمهم بشهر رمضان، وأنا أكون أقرب إليهم منك، فإني كلمتك وبيني وبينك سبعون ألف حجاب، فإذا صامت أمة محمد وابيضت شفاههم، واصفرت ألوانهم، أرفع تلك الحجب وقت الإفطار، يا موسى طوبى لمن عطش كبده، وجاع بطنه في رمضان، فلا أجازيهم دون لقائي
ورد في الحديث عن فضل الصيام: " أن موسى عليه الصلاة والسلام قال: يا رب! لقد شرفتني بالتكلم معك بلا ترجمان , فهل أعطيت هذا الشرف لغيري؟ فيقول الله سبحانه وتعالى: يا موسى! سوف أرسل أمة من الأمم - والتي هي أمة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم - وهم ذو شفاه وألسن جافة , وأجسام نحيلة هزيلة، وسوف يدعونني فيكونوا أقرب إلي منك. يا موسى! بينما أنت تتكلم معي، هناك 70000 حجاب بيني وبينك , لكن عند وقت الإفطار سوف لن يكون هناك أي حجاب بيني وبين أمة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم
This text is not found in the reliable books of hadith.
It is only found in the books of storytellers, sermons, books of literature etc. - and not in any reliable works of hadith, fiqh and tafsir.
I was able to locate it in one tafsir: Ruh al-Bayan (8/112) in which it was mentioned without a chain of narration.
All the digital encyclopaedias of hadith like Maktaba Shamela, Jami' al-Hadith, Jawami' al-Kalim do not contain this text.
Thus taking a principal of identifying a mawdu' (fabricated) hadith into consideration, that if a narration is not found in the collections of hadith (small or big) then the hadith will have a definite possibility of being fabricated.
Another point in acknowledging this as a fabrication is the verse:
The holy Qur'an makes mention of the story of Musa when he was called at the valley of Tur. Allah Ta'ala says:
Ibn 'Abbas (radhiyallahu 'anh) says: so close that (through this connection between the heavens and the earth) he could hear the scraping of the quills (of the angels). See Ibn Kathir under this verse.
This is a qat'i (definite) evidence as it is from the Holy Qur'an and it is clearly going against the text above that
It is evident that this cannot be the case, neither physically nor figuratively as no non-Prophet can reach the spiritual status of a Prophet, nor the honour of meeting the creator with such closeness.
The same issue concerns the text wherein it says:
Our 'aqida (belief) is that the Prophets ('alayhimus salam) are afdhal (more virtuous) and closer to Allah than any non-Prophet
Therefore the wording has something which is called نكارة which is from the factors of a hadith being classified as mawdu' (fabricated).
Please do not spread the above-mentioned message as the prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) has clearly said to a degree of great seriousness that
Also, the prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) has said that person who adds something to this din is not from amongst us. (Sahih al-Bukhari, No.2697)
Answered by [Maulana] Muʿādh Kapodrawi
Is Musa's ('alayhis salam) conversation with Allah about fasting persons du'a at iftar authentic?
Answer:
Some points on a hadith which is being circulated on Social Media about the benefits of du'a at the time of iftar:
Once Musa ('alayhis salam) asked Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala: O Allah!
You have granted me the honour and privilege of talking to you directly, have you given this privilege to any other person? Allah Ta'ala replied,
O! Musa during the last period I am going to send an Ummah, who will be the Ummah of Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with dry lips, parched tongues, emaciated bodies with eyes sunken deep into their sockets, with livers dry and stomachs suffering the pangs of hunger will call out to me (in du'a) they will be much much closer to me than you O Musa! while you speak to me there are seventy thousand veils between you and me but at the time of iftar there will not be a single veil between me and the fasting Ummati of Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) O! Musa I have taken upon myself the responsibility that at the time of iftar I will never refuse the du'a of a fasting person!
You have granted me the honour and privilege of talking to you directly, have you given this privilege to any other person? Allah Ta'ala replied,
O! Musa during the last period I am going to send an Ummah, who will be the Ummah of Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with dry lips, parched tongues, emaciated bodies with eyes sunken deep into their sockets, with livers dry and stomachs suffering the pangs of hunger will call out to me (in du'a) they will be much much closer to me than you O Musa! while you speak to me there are seventy thousand veils between you and me but at the time of iftar there will not be a single veil between me and the fasting Ummati of Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) O! Musa I have taken upon myself the responsibility that at the time of iftar I will never refuse the du'a of a fasting person!
This is the original text in Arabic floating around (two versions):
هل أكرمت أحدا مثل ما أكرمتني، حيث أسمعتني كلامك؟ قال الله تعالى: يا موسى إن لي عبادا أخرجهم في آخر الزمان، فأكرمهم بشهر رمضان، وأنا أكون أقرب إليهم منك، فإني كلمتك وبيني وبينك سبعون ألف حجاب، فإذا صامت أمة محمد وابيضت شفاههم، واصفرت ألوانهم، أرفع تلك الحجب وقت الإفطار، يا موسى طوبى لمن عطش كبده، وجاع بطنه في رمضان، فلا أجازيهم دون لقائي
ورد في الحديث عن فضل الصيام: " أن موسى عليه الصلاة والسلام قال: يا رب! لقد شرفتني بالتكلم معك بلا ترجمان , فهل أعطيت هذا الشرف لغيري؟ فيقول الله سبحانه وتعالى: يا موسى! سوف أرسل أمة من الأمم - والتي هي أمة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم - وهم ذو شفاه وألسن جافة , وأجسام نحيلة هزيلة، وسوف يدعونني فيكونوا أقرب إلي منك. يا موسى! بينما أنت تتكلم معي، هناك 70000 حجاب بيني وبينك , لكن عند وقت الإفطار سوف لن يكون هناك أي حجاب بيني وبين أمة محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم
This text is not found in the reliable books of hadith.
It is only found in the books of storytellers, sermons, books of literature etc. - and not in any reliable works of hadith, fiqh and tafsir.
I was able to locate it in one tafsir: Ruh al-Bayan (8/112) in which it was mentioned without a chain of narration.
All the digital encyclopaedias of hadith like Maktaba Shamela, Jami' al-Hadith, Jawami' al-Kalim do not contain this text.
Thus taking a principal of identifying a mawdu' (fabricated) hadith into consideration, that if a narration is not found in the collections of hadith (small or big) then the hadith will have a definite possibility of being fabricated.
Another point in acknowledging this as a fabrication is the verse:
(وَنَادَيْنَاهُ مِنْ جَانِبِ الطُّورِ الْأَيْمَنِ وَقَرَّبْنَاهُ نَجِيًّا)
The holy Qur'an makes mention of the story of Musa when he was called at the valley of Tur. Allah Ta'ala says:
"And we drew him near to us to converse closely."
(Surah Maryam, Verse 52)
قال ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما: " أُدنيَ حتى سمع صريف القلم " – يعني بكتابة التوراة -. انظر: " تفسير القرآن العظيم " للحافظ ابن كثير (5/237).
Ibn 'Abbas (radhiyallahu 'anh) says: so close that (through this connection between the heavens and the earth) he could hear the scraping of the quills (of the angels). See Ibn Kathir under this verse.
This is a qat'i (definite) evidence as it is from the Holy Qur'an and it is clearly going against the text above that
"there will be other people who will reach me more closer than you".
The same issue concerns the text wherein it says:
فأكون أقرب لأحدهم منك – يعني موسى عليه السلام
Our 'aqida (belief) is that the Prophets ('alayhimus salam) are afdhal (more virtuous) and closer to Allah than any non-Prophet
Therefore the wording has something which is called نكارة which is from the factors of a hadith being classified as mawdu' (fabricated).
Please do not spread the above-mentioned message as the prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) has clearly said to a degree of great seriousness that
"Whoever attributes any thing to me which I did not say then let him make his abode the fire of jahannam."
(Sahih al-Bukhari, No.1229)
Also, the prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) has said that person who adds something to this din is not from amongst us. (Sahih al-Bukhari, No.2697)
Answered by [Maulana] Muʿādh Kapodrawi