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Post by StudentOfTheDeen on Sept 20, 2015 18:39:31 GMT
The following is an example of Imam Abu Mansur al-Maturidi using the passive voice ' qila' (it is said), yet he accepts it. This demonstrates that ' qila' does not necessarily show the weakness of any given opinion: وقوله: ولَا تَشْتَرُوْا بِآيٰتِيْ ثَمَنًا قَلِيْلًا.
قيل: بحجتى.
قال الحسن: الآيات في جميع القرآن هي الدين؛ كقوله: اشْتَرَوُا الضَّلٰلَةَ بِالْهُدٰى [البقرة: ١٢، ١٧٥].
وأما عندنا فهو الحجج، وقد ذكرنا أن اسم الشراء قد يقع من اختيار الشيء بالشيء وإن لم يتلفظ بلفظ الشراء. Al-Maturidi, Ta'wilat Ahl al-Sunna, Beirut: Dar al-Kutub al-'Ilmiyya (2005), vol.1, p.445
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Post by mjamili on Oct 1, 2015 6:46:42 GMT
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmat Ullahi wa barakaatoh
There will be a book released soon In shaa Allah that deals with this issue in detail and presents the position of Ahl us-Sunna on this Hadith.
Jazak Allahu khayra
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Post by waqarakbar on Oct 3, 2015 14:35:56 GMT
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Post by muslimanswers on Oct 7, 2015 12:32:49 GMT
Salam alaykum,
Are there any persons who actively monitor the important sites of Shukurov and his students (the more well know sites like AsharisAssemble or SulaimanAhmad), from what I see they are always saying something against the 'fake Hanafis' (like the claim that Imam Maturidi (RA) believed that anyone who tried to find the truth would be saved, regardless of whether he hit or missed the mark. I know it may not be totally relevant to the Hadith issue directly, but in wider sense it is the same matter of quoting/misquoting earlier Hanafis, and of being true or fake Hanafis.)
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Post by qarialmukhtar on Oct 7, 2015 18:41:24 GMT
al-salamu alaykum,
Whilst, I admire Sh. Atabek to have provided something fresh in the whole Hanafi mustalah al-hadith subject, in the end it is a book and thus there will be critiques of it. If one does not want it to be critiqued then one should author it for themselves and never publish it or only reveal the work to those they are sure will not upset the author's mood.
Having had some honest and non-insulting reviews overall, especially by a Hanafi student it should be a welcomed critique by the author himself so they can improve some errors and publish a 3rd edition (which is what many do with books).
What I found of the response by the translator of the work was nothing sort of an emotional insecure outburst. Instead of handling things with maturity (especially if one is called a "shaykh" and is teaching second year usul) it was nothing but horrible comments to the reviewer.
I have no interest in wasteful argumentation with either the reviewers or the author/translator. I am not looking to side with either.
I also went through a response by some Maliki reviewer who clearly had a very emotional response due to her admiration of Sh. Atabek, I rather felt cringeworthy reading the whole thing as nothing academic was posted (even the one whom she was emotional for should be embarrassed by it). Though one point I cannot disagree from it was the lack of respect one of the reviewers she mentioned (or purposely misspelled) had. If the brother at each instance used no honorific term (which I would find weird if he had used "shaykh" or "Imam" for others (which he didn't) she herself used none when referring to Sh. Nasir al-Din al-Albani). Let's follow our own advise before critiquing. There were many other errors with it. Also, let's get the last name of the reviewer right before developing a response!
It was all fine till the translator was being immature but I didn't expect the author himself to being so nonsensical about the reviews. If they knew the reviewers credibility and honesty I am sure they wouldn't have being so childish about it. It's turning into some petty game at this point. And as a recognized Central Asian scholar, it would be expected by many that they behave like an adult about it. Whilst, the author has criticized many Hanafi positions held today, it was all fine and dandy because it's furu', there has been khilaf within the Hanafi sub-schools. And many have complained that all he does at times is just criticize all other Hanafis of today at times when it is not required. I didn't have a problem with it because it was a matter of ikhtilaf that he did it in but now it's just cringeworthy reading all this. Look, whoever it is that always criticizes, we have been warned from all camps of fuqaha to avoid such people, be it our own teachers.
And I know Avicenna and some other Hanafis constantly have a go at each other. I have nothing to do with either side in this nor do I live in UK to care about its Muslim politics. Let's all be mature here. I'm sure no one is a fake or uneducated Hanafi here having studied atleast 6-10 years each.
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Post by DarulTahqiq on Oct 11, 2015 15:52:30 GMT
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmat Ullahi wa barakaatoh There will be a book released soon In shaa Allah that deals with this issue in detail and presents the position of Ahl us-Sunna on this Hadith. Jazak Allahu khayra Wa alaikum salam What is the title and name of the author? Shukran
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Post by ahmed on Nov 12, 2015 12:38:26 GMT
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Post by mjamili on Nov 23, 2015 11:18:16 GMT
Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmat Ullahi wa barakaatoh There will be a book released soon In shaa Allah that deals with this issue in detail and presents the position of Ahl us-Sunna on this Hadith. Jazak Allahu khayra Wa alaikum salam What is the title and name of the author? Shukran Wa alaikum assalaam wa rahmat Ullahi wa barakaatoh The author is Mohammed Jamili and the title of the book what will In shaa Allah be published in January is Clarity Amdist Confusion: A Clarificairon Regarding the Hadith Which Describes the Effect of Magic on the Prophet ﷺ
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Post by refutingmodernists on May 12, 2016 12:05:09 GMT
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Post by DarulTahqiq on May 12, 2016 14:32:07 GMT
The author of the articles is Bassam Zawadi. Is he a muqallid of the Hanafi Madhhab in all fiqhi matters? He is known to be a type of "Salafi" in aqida related matters based on his posts on the Multaqa Ahlalhdeeth English forum.
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