Post by DarulTahqiq on Mar 1, 2015 15:08:12 GMT
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In closing this section on the actions and views of certain Hanbalis promoted by many from Salafism in this age, it is also worth mentioning an incident regarding the Shaykh al-Islam of the detractors, Ibn Taymiyya (d. 728 AH), and how he took on the role of fortelling a future event!
Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya mentioned the following with regard to his teacher, Ibn Taymiyya in his Madarij al-Salikin:
Translation:
“Then he informed the people and the rulers, in the year 702 [AH], when the Tatars had mobilised and were heading for the Levant : ‘Indeed, they will be surrounded and defeated, and triumph and victory will be for the Muslims.’ He swore more than seventy times that this would happen. It was then said to him, ‘Say, “If Allah so wills.”’ He thus replied, ‘If Allah so wills, but by way of confirmation, not as a condition.’ I heard him saying that. He said, ‘When they insisted that I say it, I said, ‘Allah the Exalted has written in the Preserved Tablet that they will be defeated in this attack and that victory will be for the armies of Islam.’ He said, ‘The sweetness of victory nourished some of the rulers and the army before they went out to meet the enemy, and his partial discernment in the course of these two events was like the rain.’”
This is what many Sufis would consider as an act of Firasa (discernment/foresight) or kashf (spiritual unveiling), but one wonders if the detractors accept this type of Firasa from other notable Sufis after the time of the Sahaba, and other Ulama of the past, or do they consider it kufr, shirk or bid’a?! They may wish to explain how ibn Taymiyya’s above statements fit into their current understanding of Tawhid and Ilm al-Ghayb (knowledge of the unseen).
To see the differences between real Hanbalis and pseudo-Salafis who advocate the so-called Hanbali way of ibn Taymiyya, Ibn Abdal Wahhab al-Najdi and their likes, one may refer to the following work published in over 800 pages in 2013 CE:
Quote:
In closing this section on the actions and views of certain Hanbalis promoted by many from Salafism in this age, it is also worth mentioning an incident regarding the Shaykh al-Islam of the detractors, Ibn Taymiyya (d. 728 AH), and how he took on the role of fortelling a future event!
Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya mentioned the following with regard to his teacher, Ibn Taymiyya in his Madarij al-Salikin:
ثُمَّ أَخْبَرَ النَّاسَ وَالْأُمَرَاءَ سَنَةَ اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِمِائَةٍ لَمَّا تَحَرَّكَ التَّتَارُ وَقَصَدُوا الشَّامَ: أَنَّ الدَّائِرَةَ وَالْهَزِيمَةَ عَلَيْهِمْ. وَأَنَّ الظَّفَرَ وَالنَّصْرَ لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ. وَأَقْسَمَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ أَكْثَرَ مِنْ سَبْعِينَ يَمِينًا. فَيُقَالُ لَهُ: قُلْ إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ. فَيَقُولُ: إِنْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ تَحْقِيقًا لَا تَعْلِيقًا. وَسَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ ذَلِكَ. قَالَ: فَلَمَّا أَكْثَرُوا عَلَيَّ. قُلْتُ: لَا تُكْثِرُوا. كَتَبَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى فِي اللَّوْحِ الْمَحْفُوظِ. أَنَّهُمْ مَهْزُومُونَ فِي هَذِهِ الْكَرَّةِ. وَأَنَّ النَّصْرَ لِجُيُوشِ الْإِسْلَامِ. قَالَ: وَأَطْمَعَتْ بَعْضَ الْأُمَرَاءِ وَالْعَسْكَرِ حَلَاوَةُ النَّصْرِ قَبْلَ خُرُوجِهِمْ إِلَى لِقَاءِ الْعَدُوِّ.
وَكَانَتْ فِرَاسَتُهُ الْجُزْئِيَّةُ فِي خِلَالِ هَاتَيْنِ الْوَاقِعَتَيْنِ مِثْلَ الْمَطَرِ.
وَكَانَتْ فِرَاسَتُهُ الْجُزْئِيَّةُ فِي خِلَالِ هَاتَيْنِ الْوَاقِعَتَيْنِ مِثْلَ الْمَطَرِ.
Translation:
“Then he informed the people and the rulers, in the year 702 [AH], when the Tatars had mobilised and were heading for the Levant : ‘Indeed, they will be surrounded and defeated, and triumph and victory will be for the Muslims.’ He swore more than seventy times that this would happen. It was then said to him, ‘Say, “If Allah so wills.”’ He thus replied, ‘If Allah so wills, but by way of confirmation, not as a condition.’ I heard him saying that. He said, ‘When they insisted that I say it, I said, ‘Allah the Exalted has written in the Preserved Tablet that they will be defeated in this attack and that victory will be for the armies of Islam.’ He said, ‘The sweetness of victory nourished some of the rulers and the army before they went out to meet the enemy, and his partial discernment in the course of these two events was like the rain.’”
This is what many Sufis would consider as an act of Firasa (discernment/foresight) or kashf (spiritual unveiling), but one wonders if the detractors accept this type of Firasa from other notable Sufis after the time of the Sahaba, and other Ulama of the past, or do they consider it kufr, shirk or bid’a?! They may wish to explain how ibn Taymiyya’s above statements fit into their current understanding of Tawhid and Ilm al-Ghayb (knowledge of the unseen).
To see the differences between real Hanbalis and pseudo-Salafis who advocate the so-called Hanbali way of ibn Taymiyya, Ibn Abdal Wahhab al-Najdi and their likes, one may refer to the following work published in over 800 pages in 2013 CE: